PZ Meyers, Jaclyn Glenn and the lack of Free Thought

For those who are unaware, I have been an outspoken opponent of a movement called Atheism +, which decided that atheism should no longer be about simply not believing in a deity, but also must be about social issues, angry and passionate “click-tivism” and having those within the atheist community fight amongst themselves.  And anyone who says differently is a misogynist.  Or, if they are a woman, ignorant and stupid and they should behave the way we believe they should because we’re feminists.  For proof of this concept, look no further than PZ Meyers and his response to some comedic criticism from the YouTube vlogger Jaclyn Glenn.

If you aren’t a regular viewer of hers, for starters – you should be.  For another, there was a recent video she did where she made a point about the infighting in the atheism movement due to the nature of Atheism +.  Here’s the video, so you can see for yourself whether or not she was being untrue –

Funny, right?  And I think that it hits the nail on the head pretty well for how unbelievably drama-based and close-minded the people who are part of that movement are.  However, PZ Meyers and his merry little band of professional victims over at FreeThought Blogs didn’t find it funny in the slightest.  Here is a link to his post, so you can check and make sure that I’m not taking anything out of context.  I already anticipate that their little crack-squad of victimhood commandos will come on here and go after me for being totally unfair and awful, the same way that they did when I went after Melody Hensley for her utter nonsense of having PTSD from Twitter trolls.

The sum of Meyers argument seems to be that because she took a comedic stance when talking about these people, she is totally wrong because that just isn’t true.  For real, that’s it.  Because she didn’t do an academic dissertation and talk about their little band of ninnies like a professor of law, her arguments are invalid.  Yes, PZ, she used a wig and hipster glasses for comedic effect.  And not even a huge one.  Have you seen Rebecca Watson’s spectacles?  Or Melody Hensley, for that matter?  This statement that she is wrong simply because she didn’t talk about you in a way that was hardcore professional and dry is pathetic.  What”s more, it shows how you have no rebuttal.

For real, that’s it?  No, “she’s wrong because we are the ones who are right.  It is right to take a position that women who don’t agree with us and don’t identify as feminists are faulty and need correcting (because you are SO all-knowing, right?).  It is right that we should get hung up on every single little issue like whether or not people have shirts with messages on them at conferences.  It is right that we should create division amongst ourselves when we could be actually making real change if we would put aside our differences and come together.”  None of that?  Your only major contention of your short blog post is that she is wrong because she did her video in a comedic way?

He ends his post by “rubbing a little salt in the wound,” like his blog was a perfect refutation and he pwned the shit out of her in the best way.  Oh yeah, PZ, you got her!  By the way, didn’t see a lot of comments that argued against your position.  In fact, I didn’t see any.  Aren’t you advocating for free thought?  Isn’t that the schtick that you are trying to run with?  I’m sorry, but I’m just not seeing it.  Though I’m not surprised.  You all habitually label anyone who doesn’t agree with you as ignorant or trolls.  Case-and-point, your entire post responding to Jaclyn.

I won’t go much further, because there isn’t a whole lot more to say.  This is usual for Atheism+.  They are huge about not addressing criticism or just labeling it as trolling or misogyny (for real, as much as they use that term, I’m starting to think that they don’t know what it means).

As for Jaclyn, good on you!  It’s about time that a woman came up and called them out on their bullshit.  Every time a guy like me does it, we’re just another woman-hating troll..  But when someone who they can’t insult in that way comes up, they instead have to resort to pathetic arguments while allowing comments only from their yes-men and women.  If you ever read this post, well-done.

Until next time, a quote,

“If my answers frighten you then you should cease asking scary questions.”  -Jules, Pulp Fiction

Peace out,


5 thoughts on “PZ Meyers, Jaclyn Glenn and the lack of Free Thought

    • Ditto. Thank you Jaclyn for your video. The Atheist+ freaks have tried to hijack the Atheist movement and ripped it to shreds with their us versus them mentality. They have to be kept on the defensive to prevent them from ever being in the position to hurt the Atheism movement again.

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