Gun Nuts are Insane

So, I just got to see something interesting – an interview with Ted Nugent, the resident Loony Tune here in America.  Of course, his arguments were vapid and stupid, but there was also a lovely mix of insane in there as well.  As a referendum to gun nuts overall, this interview was telling.

See, the atypical gun nut argument boils down to one of a couple of things.  The first is –

Constitution says that I can have my gun!  So I have a right to have it with me anywhere, anytime!

Yeah, do these people realize that the Constitution was written in the days of the musket?  For real, if you take this argument to its conclusion, then they should be able to wander around the streets with an RPG launcher or a flamethrower or an AK-47.  Hey, we can turn our streets into Sierra Leone!  The rich are already trying to do that to the entire country, why not help them along?

But back to the argument, if a person is allowed to have any weapon they want with them at any time, then they should be able to drive a tank down the street or own and H-bomb, if they can afford it.  I put this to the people who are rational – do you want Johnny Drunk-Ass driving down your city streets with a loaded tank?  Do you want him around your children?  I didn’t think so.

The other argument to this position is –

I got a right to protect my family, and Obama and his socialists are going to take my gun from my cold, dead fingers.

It kills me how many of these people think that they pose a legitimate threat to the government and its forces.  If the government really wanted to takes your guns, they could.  Easily.  Because your dumb ass with a shotgun and a bottle of whiskey isn’t going to stop a drone from blasting your house or a tank from breaking down your front door.  This idea that there is going to be some big revolution against the government amuses me.  Any modern revolution, given the advanced hardware that the military has, would be dead on arrival.  It would be bloody and the gun nuts would have their moment of glory before they get blasted with big-ass artillery.  Look at what happened in Waco and tell me I’m wrong.

Next, do these people actually believe that a person who breaks into their home or puts a gun on them to take their car is actually going to politely wait while they reach for their gun?  No, they’ll kill you and probably your family too, since you got them involved.  These people live in this delusional world where they are the star of their own action flick, killing people left and right.  Too bad that real life is WAY more complicated.  Entire books have been written on that very subject, and how people like Ted Nugent don’t get shit about the real world.  In real life, the idea that violence stop violence is ridiculous in every conceivable way.  We have to think bigger than that.  The alternative is that we have Ted Nugent doing crazy shit.  Let’s not go there.

Another interesting argument that Nugent was going on and on about was how people with guns can stop crimes.  So, he basically wants to turn America into the wild west, with vigilante justice left and right.  Again, too bad that real life is more complicated.  It makes one wonder if Ted Nugent is aware of how nuts he is.  After all, this is the same guy who said that if Obama got reelected, he would be either dead or in jail, implying that he would be attempting to kill him.

In the end, though, all of Nugent’s credibility boiled down to one statement and the reality behind it.

Instead of arresting people for molesting 24 times, I would rather the dad walked into the room, found the person molesting that child and blew his brains out.

This, coming from the same guy who was having sex with a 14 year old girl.  Unreal.

Until next time, a quote,

“Did I ever tell you what the definition of insanity is?  Insanity is doing the exact same fucking thing over and over again expecting shit to change.  That is crazy.”  -Vaas Montenegro, Far Cry 3

Peace out,

Maverick

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One thought on “Gun Nuts are Insane

  1. “… if a person is allowed to have any weapon they want with them at any time, then they should be able to drive a tank down the street or own and H-bomb, …”

    You call gun nuts insane but basically argue a straw man fallacy that they think the 2nd Amendment allows them to own H-bombs, or whatever. Actually the vast majority of guns nuts I know think that the current law that allows them to own a semi-automatic rifle or pistol is a good balance, and it has pretty much been that way since 1934 and the National Firearms Act.

    It is legal per Federal law to own a fully automatic machine gun up to .50 caliber that is registered (assuming state law also allows – not all do). Just so you don’t go off on a rant about that, these legal registered full-auto weapons have been involved in a crime maybe twice since 1934. They are horrendously expensive and the supply is limited (no new have been sold for some time). You pretty much have to be a real rich gun nut to own one. They have a big shoot every year out near Vegas. You might be able to buy good car for what a few spend on ammo in a year.

    Ok, argument #1 is down for the count. Most gun nuts just want to keep the status quo of being able to own semi-auto non-assault rifles like the AR-15.

    “do these people realize that the Constitution was written in the days of the musket?”

    Do you know that the Constitution was written in the days of quill feather pens? So does that mean that the 1st Amendment doesn’t apply to something written on a computer or transmitted over the Internet (which you might have learned in school did not exist then either?)?

    “It kills me how many of these people think that they pose a legitimate threat to the government and its forces.”

    Then why are so many in the government so strongly interested in taking them away? Ever heard of a city called Hue and the Tet Offensive of 1968? Read about, and try to understand something about it. And don’t spout a bunch of crap about it. I have friends names who are on the wall of the Vietnam Memorial in Washington, D.C.

    “It would be bloody…”

    In Hue they killed every government employee, every teacher, every doctor, everyone with a high school degree probably. After the Marines took it back there were thousands of former government employees bodies to dig up and identify.

    “Another interesting argument that Nugent was going on and on about was how people with guns can stop crimes. So, he basically wants to turn America into the wild west, with vigilante justice left and right. ”

    People with guns do stop a lot of crimes and violence. According to research by Kleck and Gertz in the 1990s (crime and homicides were much higher then and have been steadily coming down since) Americans used firearms in defense of self, family, and property perhaps as often as 2.5 million times a year and upwards of 100,000 lives were saved.

    Just last year a wannabe mass killer entered a mall in Washtington state I believe and killed a couple folks. Gun jams (happens with stupid way-over capacity magazines a lot) and he looks up and a guy with concealed carry license is pointing a gun at him. Doesn’t fire because people behind the perp in the line of fire. Bad guy runs away and commits suicide when cornered by police. That civilian probably saved a lot of lives.

    By the way, the Wild Wild West was a lot more peaceful than many modern cities. A lot. Check it out if you don’t believe. Some professor did a study on it and you would have been several orders of magnitude safer in Dodge City than modern day New Orleans (which is probably more dangerous than some real war zones I have been in).

    Finally, a vigilante is someone who after the fact tries to track down and punish a criminal. That is illegal. But using deadly force to defend yourself, or others is not being a vigilante. Check out a dictionary some time.

    “In real life, the idea that violence stop violence is ridiculous in every conceivable way.”

    And you have some real world experience in dealing with violent people? Have any idea what a bullet sounds like going past your head? No, well then don’t talk about what you don’t know squat about. Good people with guns stop bad people, some with guns and some with other weapons, all the time. The NRA mag The American Rifleman has had a column for as long as I have been alive (quite a while now) with real life incidents of people doing just that. But the news media don’t publish that, and by doing so create a dishonest impression of what happens in the real world.

    regards,

    lwk

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