Oh boy. Well, seeing as how it is Super Bowl Sunday, and I couldn’t care less about the sport, I thought that instead, I would simply choose to respond to a video that is so stupid, yet tries to pass itself off as professional and smart. This video makes the contention that “natural marriage” is good, and gay marriage is wrong. And we’re going to rip it to pieces. Here is the link to the source, now let’s get cracking.
Should marriage be limited to one man and one woman?
No. Gee, that was easy.
Why do governments promote marriage between one man and one woman? It’s not just because two people love each other.
You’re right. It’s because America is totally ruled by religion, and guess what the Christian religion thinks of gay people?
No, it’s for the perpetuation and stabilization of our society.
Uh…what? You’re going to have to explain this one.
This understanding of marriage is rooted in the biological facts of nature.
Oh, this should be good.
But do we really have a good reason to maintain such a narrow definition? Or has the time come for the government to revise and expand their definition of marriage to include same-sex couples?
You know, here’s a thought – why the fuck is it the government’s job to tell people who they can and cannot marry? For real, what reason does the government have to lord over who people enter into binding contracts with? We don’t do it to corporations (who we say are people), so why do we do it to private citizens?
When it comes to the behavior of its citizens, a government has only three options: It can promote, permit or prohibit their behavior.
That’s so stupid that I don’t even have to explain.
For example: the state promotes police work, permits most occupations, but prohibits drug dealing. Why? Because dealing drugs harms society, while police work greatly benefits society.
Wow, I guess you haven’t heard the overwhelming stories about the cops who are rampantly abusing their power, brutalizing citizens, raping and killing even, with little to no oversight. Or perhaps you haven’t heard about the overwhelming profit motive for private corporations to keep the drug war going, even with the overwhelming amount of statistics that ending the drug war and having the government tax and control the sale of drugs would massively reduce gang violence and make our country safer. So I guess that was a bad example.
In the same way, our government promotes “natural marriage,” permits most relationships but prohibits incest and pedophilia. Why? Because incest and pedophilia harm our communities, while “natural marriage” benefits our communities.
Oh boy, we have a lot to talk about here. First, this term “natural marriage.” I put it in quotations because it is bullshit. Marriage is not something that occurs in nature. I don’t see many gecko priests announcing the union of Mr. and Mrs. gecko. I don’t see many shark or dolphin or scorpion priests or judges doing it either. So yeah, this is an absurd and insulting thing to call what is, for all intents and purposes, a legal contract. You can argue how your sky-wizard likes it all day, but the truth is that marriage is a contract underneath all the flim-flam and bullshit. Now, I’m definitely with you that pedophilia is bad for a community, but with incest, I take an exception in one regard – if two people, who are old enough to consent decide to enter into that, so long as they don’t have kids, I see no problem. And since you are comparing this example to the one you previously made, you aren’t helping your position.
And here’s how – natural marriage creates children,
And single mothers and fathers don’t? Or maybe abusive relationships? And of course, not some teenager who was given abstinence-only education, so she wasn’t able to protect herself never creates a child. Fucking moron.
it best raises children,
Fuck that noise! For real, I have seen SO many married parents who raise their kids like shit. Not to mention, are you saying that a gay or lesbian couple who wants children are not able to raise it well? That their children are naturally inferior? Wow, I am totally with your title. That’s not bigotry at all. (cough*bullshit*cough)
it protects women,
My god, how stupid are you?! Do you have any idea what the domestic violence rates are among married women? Where are you getting this information from? What sources? Not to mention how unbelievably sexist that statement is.
it civilizes men,
Oh yeah, because all men who aren’t married are just a bunch of animals! Why, we would be raping and killing right now, were it not for marriage. Oh, wait, that’s total bullshit. I’m not married, have no interest in getting married, and I am about as respectful as it gets, because I believe in treating people the way I want to be treated. Pity that the shallow nature of most of the women I have met has put that kind of attitude into the “friend zone.”
it lowers crime, poverty and welfare, which in turn reduces government spending and deficits.
You’re fucking kidding me! You’re really making this argument?! No wonder you disabled the comments section on your video. There must be people foaming at the mouth to destroy you with statistics on how there are tons of women in urban communities that are infested with crime, how America’s poverty rate is reflected more by how the gap between the lower and upper class is growing, along with data about how our extraordinary military spending is a thousand times more of an iron ball our our nation’s economic ankle than welfare programs ever would be. Or maybe they could hit you back with statistics about how investing in infrastructure and a social safety net is proven to be a force for making a nation’s economy stronger, rather than what you seem to think. Not to mention – do you think that all crime is coming from gay and lesbian couples, you fucking bigot? Fucking brilliant…
In short, “natural marriage” perpetuates and stabilizes society. Everyone benefits from that. Even those who don’t get married.
Not with the bullshit reasoning that you’ve handed us.
Now, let’s look at same-sex marriage.
This should be rich.
What benefits does it provide? *sound of crickets chirping*
Oh, that’s what you think it provides? Hm, how well-researched. Well, allow me to retort. For one thing, it allows people to enter into a contract with the person they love. Despite my views on marriage, culturally, this is a huge issue. To deny one group of it is basically saying – we don’t care about you, now please fuck off. Next, it gives them the same tax benefits that regular married couples have, along with hospital visitation rights, in case their partner gets injured or severely ill, and the ability to share in property and have work rights that regular married couples do. Gee, so glad that you did your research, makers of this video.
Same-sex marriage offers NO benefits for society as a whole. In fact, it hurts us.
Well, I was wondering when we would get to the bigoted drivel that you want to sell, while trying to say you aren’t bigots. Alright, let’s hear it.
Promoting same-sex marriage changes the purpose of the civil institution of marriage.
And what might that be?
“Natural marriage” centers on bringing up the next generation. On raising children to become good citizens.
Uh…what? That’s really, really dumb. For one thing, what about married couples who have no children? For another, are you saying that gay couples can’t raise good children? I know a woman and her partner who have raised an amazing child, who is one of the few kids I actually happen to like. And what about single parents? Are you saying that they can’t raise good children? Wow, sexist and bigoted. Good for you, going balls-to-the-wall with this.
Same-sex marriage merely validates sex partners.
Whoa, stop right there! What the fuck?! “Merely validates sex partners”? Do you have any idea how insulting that is?! Yeah, because these people weren’t valid before this. They were just a caste of citizens that we could totally ignore and not give a shit about. You are one of the worst people I have ever had the chance to meet! If a bus hit you tomorrow, I wouldn’t shed a single tear. Un-fucking-believable.
We know, statistically, that “natural marriage” creates the best possible family for children.
And those statistics are…?
If we alter the primary purpose of marriage, the losers will be the children.
Yeah, because gay couples just raise the worst children. Unlike those good-old fundamentalist Christians, who raise children to hate gay people, along with women who get abortions, or any other group they don’t like. Spreading hate everywhere they go. Or maybe like those Evangelical Christians, who militarize children for God. Or how about those extreme Muslim families, who are proud of their children blowing themselves up for Allah. Yup, all those people are so much better.
Doesn’t every child deserve a mom and dad?
You hear that, single parents? You are failing because you don’t have a person of the other gender with you.
But what about “natural marriages” that don’t create children? They are the exception, not the rule.
Oh yeah, just like loving gay and lesbian parents, or single parents. You know, those people who you seem to be totally against.
The only relationships that do create children are between a man and a woman. No exceptions.
Hey, now I know why so many kids are in the foster care system!
Whenever same-sex marriage is promoted, schools subject your students to mandatory homosexual curricula.
Uh…what? Where was “Being Gay 101″ when I was in school? I don’t remember my biology, English, US History, Geometry, or French teachers having a curriculum about being gay. That would have been something I might have been interested in, so long as there was a class about sucking dick, eating pussy and how to tie an elaborate knot, which comes in SO handy for my S&M scenes I do with my Dom. For real, knowing your knots is important, kids. Learn it! Oh yeah, and they also have a bunch of BS headlines that read like they are news stories, but since there are absolutely NO sources, if you look them up, they’re bulllshit.
Your businesses and taxes fund homosexual relationships.
Yeah, more bullshit headlines, with no sources. Oh, and that’s also a bullshit statement. By that logic, businesses and taxes fund heterosexual ones as well.
Your freedom of speech is gagged.
How? Your headlines had statements about a guy who got fired for making statements against gay marriage, which have no sources, but assuming they’re true, this guy was a sports anchor. Guess what – the government doesn’t own that network. The heads of the network made the choice to fire that person, if such a person exists. You also have a headline (without source) talking about a consultant getting fired for writing a book in support of your view of marriage, which again, is totally in the hands of the private business. They could have kept this person on and been known of supporting bigotry.
And your religious freedom is overruled.
Yeah, because suddenly, we have gay marriage, and you can’t be a Christian anymore! You have more BS headlines. One talks about a student getting expelled for disagreeing with same sex marriage. I call bullshit on that because there was no source, and he would have had to do a lot worse than that to get expelled. You also have a headline saying that Catholic adoption groups close their doors, rather than let gay couples adopt. You know what, fuck that noise! If you are going to deny a loving family the ability to raise a child, then fuck you.
The government has no interest in legally promoting same-sex marriage. None.
Hey, here’s a thought – how about the government has no right at all to tell people who they can and cannot enter into a marriage contract with! For real, you might as well say that they have the right to tell women what to do with their bodies. Oh, wait…
But we have every reason to continue to promote “natural marriage.”
Such as?
But what about equality? The law already treats everyone equally. Every citizen can marry someone of the opposite sex.
Unbelievable. You are so fucking stupid and bigoted that it boggles the mind. Yes, because lesbian and gay couples are not equal to the rest of us. They are beneath the rest of us. Yeah, that is totally cool. Fuck you.
But is it fair to promote “natural marriage” and not same-sex marriage?
Simple answer – no.
Yes. The law treats all people (they put emphasis on this word) the same, but it doesn’t treat all behaviors the same.
It doesn’t get more offensive than this. For real, it doesn’t. This is the most bigoted thing I have ever heard, and these people think that they have made it sound smart. Yes, because entering into a gay relationship is a “behavior.” Yeah, it’s that simple. It’s not a huge part of a person’s personality. It’s not a major part of their life. It’s just a behavior. Like opening a door three times, or making sure all the lights are off before you go to bed. Yup, that simple. Fucking brilliant…
Same-sex marriage and “natural marriage” are different behaviors, with different outcomes.
Um, no they’re not. They’re legal contracts that people make. Underneath all the religious bullshit about how sacred marriage is (though if you look in the Bible, clearly not to Christians, with all the sex-slaves, concubines and many wives some of them had), it is, at its core, a legal contract. That is it.
So the law rightfully treats them differently.
No, the law is lead by people who think like you, and you are a horrible bigot.
Isn’t this discrimination against homosexuals?
Simple answer – yup.
No. This discriminates against behaviors, not people.
So many Christians have made variations of this statement. From “love the sinner and not the sin,” to “I don’t hate them, God hates them.” It’s all the same, in the end.
For example, are you being discriminated against when the government promotes police work, but you never become police officer? No, not at all.
Wow, that example is so stupid that I almost had to slap myself to remember that I am awake.
We all benefit when police work is encouraged.
Tell that to Raymond Harisse, who was gunned down while in his car by six cops who fired with abandon into his vehicle while he was unarmed, hitting several civilians as well. Or maybe the black kid in New York City who were taped driving up to a black kid and beating him to death, saying that he was “resisting arrest.” Or how about the family in Michigan, who were raided and had their dog shot and the dog’s puppies pepper-sprayed for the fun of it, all claiming it was a “drug bust.” Or maybe we can talk to the girl who was detained because a cop didn’t like her swearing, even though she had tried to call them earlier and was hung up on while her father was having a seizure. Yup, I bet all those people just love the cops.
In the same way, people who don’t marry someone of the opposite sex are not discriminated against when our government promotes “natural marriage.” In fact, we all benefit when “natural marriage” is encouraged.
Using the logic you have presented? Fat fucking chance. Oh yeah, and they are discriminated against when a government denies them the right to marry who they love.
But what about tolerance? Yes, same-sex marriage advocates need to be more tolerant.
Oh, fuck you! You’re not fucking going where I think you’re going. But wait, they are. They hold up another headline (with no source) of Obama saying that we shouldn’t advocate against gay marriage. Yeah, because heterosexuals are so fucking discriminated against. You all have it so damn hard. I feel bad for ya. I really do. It must be so hard to be in the overwhelming majority and not have your rights and your decisions being trampled on at all. So hard indeed.
Homosexual relationships are already tolerated in the US. They can already commit themselves to each other until death do they part, without government endorsement.
And, just like all Christian videos like this, the ultimate truth comes out – they are against gay marriage just because they don’t want to share the name for their contract with a group they don’t like. Fuck you. Fuck everyone who thinks this way. For real, you’re fucking scum, and you should die.
But only the union of one man and one woman should be promoted, because it alone is the foundation of a civilized society.
Oh really? So, the ancient Greeks, Egyptians, Japanese and Chinese societies weren’t civilized? There’s a reason that the Japanese looked on the Europeans with disgusted when they first found them. And their societies, while having their problems, were flourishing without your Christian definition of marriage. Oh yeah, and people are civilized without marriage. Every single contention of this video is bullshit. Straight-up fucking bullshit.
That’s not bigotry. That’s biology.
Nah, it’s bigotry. And fuck you for speaking it. Oh, and also fuck you for exploiting science to try and make your point. Thankfully, science doesn’t back you up at all, because homosexuality isn’t limited to humans. And marriage exclusively is.
This is what the LGBT community has to live with. Uninformed assholes who want to trample on their rights. See now why I have absolutely ZERO love for the religious community?
Until next time, a quote,
“I’m completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death.” -George Carlin
Peace out,
Maverick
Well, that reason is just so well-informed, educated and backed-up by fact, honey. I mean, the way you put it, if we let other women get married, they’ll all want to! Oh, wait, that’s really fucking stupid, and you’re equally-stupid because you actually believe that. Oh yeah, and you also can’t spell, since you don’t want to be with “a women.” Moron.
Ah yes, God. You’ll find that a lot of the reasons that these young people have come to this conclusion is associated with this imaginary friend. Because, as we have seen in the Bible, this God character sure does follow people’s prejudices, doesn’t he? Well, I’m so glad that these believers have a guy in their life who always agrees with them and never tells them that they are just a bunch of bigots. I mean, all that stuff that Jesus said about loving your neighbor and not hurting people. I’m sure that’s just window-dressing. We all know that Jesus secretly hates the gay people as much as the rest of us. Right?
You know what else is written in the Bible – that men having long hair is a sin. Dumb shit. Oh, and apparently, because you had good parents, that means that all gay and lesbian parents are bad parents. Unreal. That kind of stupid can only be found in America. Or maybe not, but it’s most vocal here. I just love the idea that because you had good parents, these people can’t have good ones. But I’m sure that your Fundie Christian parents made sure that hammer that point home inside of that clump of bologna that you call a brain. Oh yeah, and you call yourself “amazing,” yet you are at a rally for bigots. Well, if anything, you’re an amazing piece of shit. Would you accept that?
Oh, the pretty white girl has a problem with gay marriage because she believes in God. So tell me, honey, you have sex before marriage? Get any piercings? Got any tattoos? Ever eat shellfish? I can see that you’re wearing something of mixed and also artificial fabrics, so you’re sinning right there, holding that sign. So, you believe in God, but don’t obey every single command he gives, except this one. At least the first girl was honest, saying that she found it icky. Like all the rest of these Christ-tards, you hide being religion because it makes you feel good. Never mind that you’re causing real harm to real people in real time. Rotten excuse for a human being…
Oh my god. Your grammar is awful! Seriously, reading this out loud is an exercise in patience. So, let me get this straight – because your imaginary friend made a man and a woman, and a woman from a man’s rib (If you buy one of the Genesis stories. There are two, in Genesis. In the other story, God makes a man and a woman at the same time. But don’t tell Christians that. They aren’t real good with consistency. Or knowing their own Bible), so that’s why gay marriage is wrong? Huh, when you say it out loud, that sounds pretty fucking stupid.
Oh, really? Well, I guess you haven’t heard that being gay is totally natural. For real, over a dozen species of animal (and human beings are animals, despite our desire to believe otherwise) that are documented to get into single-sex relationships. Homophobia only exists in one. Here’s a hint – it’s the one that is holding up the signs in this blog post. And everything in nature is totally natural. So, by your logic, since it’s in nature, that makes it okay. Right? I mean, if you’re arguing that it’s still wrong, even though it’s in nature, then that makes you just a hypocrite. For real, there’s no way around that. Either you accept your own position, or you just shut the fuck up. I hope you pick the former, but I’m totally fine the latter.
Well, here’s a new one. Most people go right to the whole Leviticus reasoning and just say it’s wrong. You are actually making a different argument. Don’t get me wrong, it’s fucking stupid, and you don’t look any smarter making it, but wow. You actually are coming at this from a different angle. You wearing any mixed fabrics? You ever eat shellfish? I ask this not to be a broken record. I ask because I am looking at what you are saying here and think that it is nothing but bullshit. You nit-pick, which makes you nothing but a casual Christian, and you hide behind the Bible as a means to not take moral responsibility for the insipid bullshit you say. Yeah, That sounds about right.
Wait…what? So, we’re redefining what’s human by allowing gay marriage? Are you fucking serious? Are you actually making the argument that these people are somehow not human because they don’t have the same relationships as you? Or are you saying that somehow God’s creation is changed because we allow gay marriage? I honestly don’t know what else to say, because I just don’t get this response. It’s that stupid. I leave it to you, my viewers, to figure this one out.
Yeah, and you put one woman and one man on that island, a couple generations down the road, there’ll be some nasty inbreeding happening. Though if you by the Christian angle, it’s all inbreeding. Still, I gotta say, this is new. You are actually making an argument that doesn’t involve the Christian sky-daddy. Okay, um…hm. Well, let me first say that if you believe the entire purpose of a relationship and marriage is to produce offspring, then you must have one boring love life. The purpose of human life is not to produce offspring. It’s to find happiness and to lead the kind of life that you think is worth leading. And, as usual, you are with the bigots who make the argument that a man and a woman are needed as parents. Take it from me, you bigoted bitch, I know two women who have raised an amazing daughter. She’s a cool kid, and one of the few I like. What makes a good parents isn’t what genitals they have. It’s what they do with that responsibility.
And finally, we come back to another idiot who hides behind his faith to avoid having to actually think. The girl above you may be nothing but a idiot who has thoughts that actually amuse me with how stupid they are, but at least her idea was original. You, on the other hand, are just a person who wants to believe that God shares your prejudice and your hatred. As most Christians do.
